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Well that sucks because that fucks up all my plans, colonization at least.
Tech I can get around to adapt a bit.
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I l0ve the idea, and I am playing.

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Well that sucks because that fucks up all my plans, colonization at least.
Tech I can get around to adapt a bit.


Just say "don't do it" and it won't happen.

Or we can just do the Tech part and leave the Colonization part alone.
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Your colony ships will be cheaper and faster to build, Research will also. you will be able to research much faster.

I think it is great.

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Well, I am glad I am not playing! Such a rule change mid game creates a really dubious situation. The more time you have to prepare for "The Great Enlightenment", the more you can benefit from it, for example stockpiling research or having crew for colony ready at production planets.

IMHO, rules should be crystal clear before the game starts!
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The colonization modifier exists to make it harder for the bigger players to expand, I see that as an attempt to make the players a bit more equal. Without it, fast expanding players would have an even greater advantage, and setting it from 100 to 10 is about as good as removing it.
So yeah, I don't like it from a gameplay perspective. There is also that tiny detail that I planned for a long and costly colonization phase (I didn't pick the doctrine but I did make my home planet a full-blown production planet.)

The science part, I don't know. I thought you wanted a slow-tech galaxy, which is why you set the modifier to 750 in the beginning? It is 700 now, and if you reduce it by 50 every 80 turns or so, I have no problem with that. But what you suggested seems a bit off.
Maybe you underestimated how expensive techs would be with that high modifier? Well I say let's have fun beating up each other with fusion-powered corvettes, instead of cranking up the tech rate with a modifier change.

Tl:dr: Please don't do it.
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So the Enlightenment will not happen.

But remember this would of only happened for 8 turns, then everything would of gone back to the current settings. I honestly thought it would of been fun!

At least you replied, that's something that doesn't happen in many galaxies
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Things like that can indeed be fun.
But as Xeelee saiid, rules need to be made clear from the beginning. At the very least, you should have mentioned "Random events with random effects will happen", but I would have prefered even more details than that: What the events do exactly - length and effects, what triggers it and when you expect those events to trigger.

That way we could discuss what makes sense, what might be fun, and what is too much. Radom events are generally frowned upon in competitive strategy games though, they tend to give an advantage to some players more than others.
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Things like that can indeed be fun.
But as Xeelee saiid, rules need to be made clear from the beginning. At the very least, you should have mentioned "Random events with random effects will happen", but I would have prefered even more details than that: What the events do exactly - length and effects, what triggers it and when you expect those events to trigger.

That way we could discuss what makes sense, what might be fun, and what is too much. Radom events are generally frowned upon in competitive strategy games though, they tend to give an advantage to some players more than others.


Well as I said I'm glad you posted your opinion on the subject. Wish more of the players in this galaxy would of posted something.

If I ever create another galaxy with this idea in mind, I will be sure to let players know random events may or may not happen. I will also post what those event may be. As for when the events will happen..it needs to be random, with a couple of turns (depending on turn length) of forewarning.

I think what I was looking at was recreating some of the Random events of "Masters of Orion" which I think provided a little bit of inspiration for CS.
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The only problem is that you are also playing the game, and could call events at a time when it is to your advantage. Or didn't you think of that ? Wink Or maybe someone had to be away for a couple of days during the time the event happened. The only FAIR way is to post the turn on which each event will happen, and describe what the event is in the game description before the game starts.

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I still love the idea of a random occurrence. like this! it would be even better if it wasn't set out for the players to know ahead of time but like the wind in a sailboat race, it is an act of nature and it requires attention to take full advantage of.

this is just an opinion and only from one person. I believe that Sygor is a very honest player and was not doing this for advantage and any hint otherwise is not well placed. Just another observation although other people can and should live by their own perspective and inclinations. Big Grin

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I still love the idea of a random occurrence. like this! it would be even better if it wasn't set out for the players to know ahead of time but like the wind in a sailboat race, it is an act of nature and it requires attention to take full advantage of.

this is just an opinion and only from one person. I believe that Sygor is a very honest player and was not doing this for advantage and any hint otherwise is not well placed. Just another observation although other people can and should live by their own perspective and inclinations. Big Grin


Thanks Pommie, that was nice of you to say about me.

There are people who do think I would use this to get an advantage, so trigger events would be needed and at the same time they would need some sort of randomness. The following are some I thought of;

1. When the galaxy closes for sign up.
2. When someone has a Rep Gain.
3. When the price of metal or some other resource reaches a certain point
4. When I make contact with all other players (would need to trust me)

Each event would happen a set turn after the trigger, such as how I posted "The Great Enlightenment" will happening in 8 turns.

Anyway it was just an idea to keep the game interesting.
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Turn 185

So far I'm enjoying this galaxy. I like the closeness of all the systems and the high tech Modifier. Having to rely on light ships for so long is a refreshing change. I'm also beginning to wonder if we are going to see any heavy ships deployed or if anyone will need any exotics..

The only thing I would change is the turn time. I think 2 hour turns would be perfect.
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Small ships will be the way to go for quite a bit more I believe, the tech costs really are steep. And I don't know if we will ever see a real demand for exotics, there's a good chance the game could be over before then.

Short turn times would work for me only if I actually played from work too, otherwise I'd miss too much. That, and sleep, prevents me from agreeing with you.
Governors can help for a few turns, but not really, and Admirals are even more useless. Not worded as clearly but still, I made that observation 10 years ago - if you could script more, not being online wouldn't matter that much. But things being what they are, nothing can safe you from the mirco-management you need to do to stay relevant.
Even with 3 hours I feel the stress from not logging in while I sleep or work.

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I over slept this morning, quickly fixed my wife her meds and breakfast. I then headed for the studio, downloaded the photos I took yesterday, and edited them all. I then made a transfer disk and went to town, Bank, Post Office, The print Shop to print the photos and then delivered the photos. Got back home around 12pm and fixed lunch, ate, and am just now turning on the game.

What did I shoot yesterday, The Governor of the Great state of Missouri, State rep to Washington DC Steve Cookson and others.

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I agree Micro-management will always be more efficient. but then I'm willing to give up some efficiency if it means I'm going to enjoy the game more and not worry while I'm AFK.

One of the funnest game types of CS I've played as been the "Batched Ticked" Galaxies, Walnut, Macadamia, plus others. These galaxies are fully reliant on Govs and Admirals. They also eliminate the Turn time problem.
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Well it's been interesting, a bit, to see something so old still not dead, but that was it for me. I guess I'm not good enough or active enough for this. It was too stressful anyway.
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Trying to Micro-manage so many planets is always stressful. That's why my galaxies have limited planets with 4 hr tics. Give it a try. I'm sure you find it much easier. Wink
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