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Links for further reading that someone might find interesting

The biggest problem seem to be where to get hold of the Exotic Matter with negative mass which is not known to us yet...

Discovery by Eagleworks Laboratories, revealed 2012-09-14:

quote from first article:
The Eagleworks team has discovered that the energy requirements are much lower than previously thought. If they optimize the warp bubble thickness and "oscillate its intensity to reduce the stiffness of space time," they would be able to reduce the amount of fuel to manageable amount: instead of a Jupiter-sized ball of exotic matter, you will only need 500 kilograms to "send a 10-meter bubble (32.8 feet) at an effective velocity of 10c.

Ten c! That's ten times the speed of light, people (remember, the ship itself would not go faster than the speed of light. But effectively it will seem like it does).


Article, 2012-09-17:
http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-w
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Article, 2012-09-20:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/09/warp-drive-plausible/

Nasa, Eagleworks Laboratories: Advanced Propulsion Physics Research:
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20110023492
"pursue propulsion technologies necessary to enable human exploration of the solar system over the next 50 years, and enabling interstellar spaceflight by the end of the century"

An old related documentary, Discovery Channel 2009:
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6701714/Discovery_Ch_Sci_Fi_Science_01of25_H
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i wonder if Alcubierre is the name that will be praised for the next thousand years.

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I will probably not be around to see the praise of Alcubierre, perhaps i should look for a company that can make me cryonically frozen and hopefully then wake me up after 1000 years...

Alcubierre is part of the documentary, clip from the documentary on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZXDEUOao0

He began playing with the formulas after watching a Star Trek episode... His formula was published 1994

Further i found this article from 2000 quite interesting discussing negative energy:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/negativeenergy/negativeenergy.htm
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i wonder if Alcubierre is the name that will be praised for the next thousand years.


... or the last name to be mentioned before an unforseen side-effect of this whole thing locally rips space-time to shreds (and locally could mean the solar system, or the milky way, who knows? Tongue )

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Many biologist believe that discoveries in the cellular aging clock, or any of several other breakthroughs may change human life expectamcy to 100 years, 200 years, 1000 years...

We will see.

But anyone reading this might well live to the end of this century or beyond.
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This is definitely interesting... Thanks for the sharing Smile

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radiance brings up a good point.

there are several possible lines of research that might signifcantly prolong human life:
1. telomerase renewal or the cellular clock just mentioned

2. genetic manipulation or human chimeras: there are supposedly 2 organisms on the planet that could theoretically live forever. there is a type of tree, the oldest known specimens are over 5000 years old. i forget the name of this tree because my memory sux. the other organism is a jellyfish who has the following lifecycle: a) young male, b) old male c) turn into female d) reproduce e)become a young male again f) goto a.
so if we could use dna from this little critter in humans, we would all get to grow tits....several times in our lives.

3. organ replacement thanks to cloning

4. stem cell therapy and other regenerative methods. theyre turning skinn cells into brain cells etc. its really happening. although using analogy in electronics, this would be equivalent to turning one circuit board into another, random, circuit board. they do not have very good accuracy of what theyre turning stuff into + if you can produce new brain cells, they still have to connect to the right places which can be a tricky business in an adult organism.

5. nanontechonology. little buggers just go inside you and fix everything. the ultimate immortality.

6. machine consciousness. transfering your personality and memories into a computer. i personally dont think this is a viable path. its similar imo to the point of teleportation. you get Destroyed and a copy of what was destroyed is recreated somewhere else. i dont wanna get destroyed, thanks for asking though : )

(edit) nr 1 is already thoroughly researched and i would not be surprised if there had already been successful human tests. obviously they could not tell the public because that would throw the world into anarchy. everyone wants to live forever but the reality of our economy does not allow that.

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Actually not everyone wants to live forever. Most people I talk to seem to be happy with a good healthy 80 years or so. So I am guessing that there will not be as many people as you think wanting this treatment. And it will be a treatment. I don't think the cost will be that bad at least for developed countries. Treatment will be ongoing and life long I am guessing. It will not be a one shot process and then you live another 50 years. I would bet on monthly and yearly treatments. They will be able to maximize profit this way.

There may come a time when you have to go in for a months to a year at a time for complete rejuvenation back down to say a 18 year old in body age. But something like this would be over a hundred years away. If we can eak out another 20 extra healthy ears here in the next 20 to 30 years I think the age of natural death will be slowly going away.

Add in memory storage devices I think the death of the body could be no big deal. Just clone and implant the memory and you are on your way.
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4. stem cell therapy and other regenerative methods. theyre turning skinn cells into brain cells etc. its really happening. although using analogy in electronics, this would be equivalent to turning one circuit board into another, random, circuit board. they do not have very good accuracy of what theyre turning stuff into + if you can produce new brain cells, they still have to connect to the right places which can be a tricky business in an adult organism.


I've recently read the opposite - that it's surprisingly easy to have the stem cells do what you want (heal damage). They injected stem cells from the umbilical chord into the brain of mice. The brains of the mice had been cut in places, isolating various areas of the brain, but the injected cells found their own way and repaired much of the damage.
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cool i didnt know that : )
so stem cells are kind of "fire and forget" missile of medicine

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I don't know how hard they had to 'nudge' the stem cells, but I remember they were surprised at how they 'figured it out' on their own - much like when embryos develop and the cells just sort of 'know' which organs they are meant to be part of.
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yar its crazy magic how cells figure it out like that.
and this came about just through random sets of trial and error until there was a system which worked exactly the way its meant to like 99% of the time and produced unspeakable complexities.

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